Jimmy Stewart Fight

[elccl]

On the events page, it shows Jimmy Stewart is fighting Oct. 9th for the World Super Welterweight Title. Shouldn't his opponent have been announced by now? What's the hold-up?

[Pisand]

http://www.stewartcenterboxing.com/events.asp

check out his homepage - he's fighting on November 8th so maybe the October bout fell through???

[elccl]

[QUOTE=Pisand]http://www.stewartcenterboxing.com/events.asp

check out his homepage - he's fighting on November 8th so maybe the October bout fell through???[/QUOTE]
You check out his home page, that November 8th fight was in 2002. I'm looking for 10-9-04, or is this going to be another title shot that fell through!

[darkhollow]

I personally know Jimmy Stewart and would like to let you all know that the fight is still on. The date is October 9, 2004. Jimmy will be fighting Charles Barron from Chicago, Ill. The Stewart Center web site is not currently updated, therefore, the fight listed on it is from the past. Sorry for that mix-up. Good luck Jimmy.

[elccl]

I heard the same thing, but I was looking for confirmation from the IKF that this fight is still a go. The upcoming events page has yet to be updated with this information. Why has the IKF not confirmed?

[Pete P]

He is fighting Charles Barron???? I fought him in late 2000 and beat him in a four round FCR match in Chicago...and he is fighting for a World Title?? Darn the luck, i should have kept fighting..LOL. If this is the same Charles Barron I am thinking of (short black buy, right)? Jimmy should have no problem, heck, he has about 6 or 7 inches on him.

[Selbee]

I have the read a few stories on Stewart. Does he just fight full contact?

just curious, can't sleep

[darkhollow]

Yes it is the same Charles Barron. IKF waiting on all paper work. But it has been confirmed. Jimmy does fight full contact.

[elccl]

[QUOTE=darkhollow]Yes it is the same Charles Barron. IKF waiting on all paper work. But it has been confirmed. Jimmy does fight full contact.[/QUOTE]
Since you are with the IKF. When will the events page show that Charles Barron is his opponent.

[Pete P]

I see the events page shows Eric Marshall from Florida as the opponent for Jimmy Stewart. what happened to Charles Barron? Was he ever being considered as Jimmy's opponent? And if so, what was the reason for the switch?

[darkhollow]

As of this time, Stewart camp is still waiting for paper work from Rob Zbilski in regards to Charles Barron fighting. Stewart camp has heard rumor that Charles Barron has a broken foot or hand! This was our first acknowledgement on Erik Marshall.

[Mark Grassman]

I think Eric Marshall will be a worthy contender.

[EMK Fan]

Erik Marshall is fighting Jimmy Stewart Oct 9th, Go Erik!!! :)

[admin]

just got word from steve at ikf. eric marshall hurt his back over the weekend and is out. poor jimmy stewart, he has had like 7 guys pull out on him for this title in the last 2 years. He should just be given the title on stress alone!:mad:

[tommy bee]

I have Tarek Rached formely of Lebanon in my gym which is availabile to fight at 154 lb or 160lbs against any fighter in the world.

Tarek is 12-1 as a pro and has won the WKA,WAKO,WPKA Wolrd championships in Full contact and Low kick rules.Tarek is a world class pro and he had over 100 amateur fights and has fought Worldwide.

His only pro loss was in A k-1 style tournament in 4 round controversal decission against A world champion from Holland.

tarek has also won the K-1 lebanon .

I have offered Tarek Rached to fight Jimmy Stewart with no interest in the past.

Tarek recently fought on the Ultiomate kickboxing Challenge in NY and won by 2 nd rd Ko.

If you would like to make a fight between Tarek Rached and Jimmy Stewart for October 3nd we are very interested in making this fight happen.

please call me Tommy Bottone at 516-885-9239 or email me at tommybeeatafc@yahoo.com

[elccl]

Wow! What a surprise. As a Jimmy Stewart fan, I figured this would happen. Now this is my opinion, you have two seasoned veterans like Erik Marshall and Charles Barron and neither one has ever fought hurt? Come on, guys this is for a world title. I beleive both of these guys are game, but someone does not want this fight to take place. My question is who?

[P.J. Reilly]

Great job Tommy, way to step up!! :D

[tommy bee]

I have fowarded the offer to the IKF and have not yet recieved an answer from them.

[Mike Morello]

This is a BIG TIME bummer for Jimmy being up and down for this WORLD Title shot so many times hang in there Jimmy.
Mike Morello

[Crazy T]

Conrats to Jimmy Stewart. He was awarded the IKF Super Welter Weight Title. Take care and train hard!!! :)

[axe018]

i know Jimmy is a great fighter and deserves a shot at the Title but i dont beleive anyone should be just handed a title

[Pisand]

What do they mean "awarded" the title?

[elccl]

Congratulations Jimmy! Way to go IKF! I'm sure Jimmy would have prefered to win it in the ring. But after thousands of dollars spent and six fighters back out, I'm sure he will appreciate it. But to all the fighters in the IKF, the promoter for this fight is a pro boxing promoter and loved the sport enough to make this his main event. After every thing that has went on, he won't want kickboxing back on his fight cards again. Now boxing brings in a lot more money and I believe the fighters in the IKF are very under paid and deserve more. Getting hooked up with boxing promoter would have been a good thing!

[SmackMaster]

Great Decision!
jimmy is deserving and since everyone kept backing out (or call it chicken, who knows?), give it to him and let him defend it. but i doubt anyone will even challenge him! if there were real takers, they would have come out long ago when they were looking for a title challenger, even your guy tommy. but hey, what about now? tommy, why don't you promote a show and have your guy challenge jimmy now? or is that too much to ask? probably is. everyone wants to be called, paid, taken care of, but only stewart was willing to take the risk on his own, spend his own money and go for it! sorry, but i just don't see that happening much in the sport. jimmy tried to make it happen with his own efforts, it wasnt his fault others failed him. good thing the ikf didnt fail him in the end! once again for those questioning this, GREAT DECISION!

[axe018]

ok you guys have good points, he does derserve it to be handed to him. i would fight him after my broken arm heals, but i dont think the ikf would let it be for his title ive never fought fcr rules, but i am ranked #1 in the welter weight int. rules and 6th in the muay thai rules

[tommy bee]

We have offered Tarek Rached to fight for an IKF title since he arrived in the Us over 2 years ago.

This was not an attack on Jimmy Stewart. I respect jimmy as a fighter and was just trying to make a legitmate offer for A legitamte titel fight.

I do promote shows check out my web site http://www.ringoffirekickboxing.com

We have tried to make A fight with Jimmy stewart before on our events and have no preply from him .

We offered to step up to the plate for this title because it has been said on here that there is no qualified opponent willing to take the fight which is not the case.

I am sure that jimmy will be a good champion and we hope to get a shot at that title in the future.

[Crazy T]

Now that Jimmy is the champ, its going to be interesting to see just how may challenges will be made, but there is a difference between challenging and actually taking the fight. As said before, Jimmy was and is, always willing to fight the best and the best kept pulling out. I'm sure that the Stewart Camp understands that fighters do get injured training, but when was it going to stop. Know it has. I believe that this was a good ruling and that he should wear the belt proudly! Take care and train hard!!!

[Mark Grassman]

Was Jimmy Stewart's non-title bout the only fight on the card?

[elccl]

Jimmy Stewart's fight was the only kickboxing match, but there were 6 regular boxing fights on the undercard.

[EMK Fan]

One of the best did not BACK OUT , he was forced out by circumstances. I gaurantee that if Erik Marshall didnt get hurt, Jimmy would not be wearing that belt today. Maybe someday there will be another opportunity for them to fight, and everyone can see for themself Marshall is not a fighter that backs out because of fear or being chicken as some smart ass states. Even Strewart new he had his hands full with Marshall.



[QUOTE=Crazy T]Now that Jimmy is the champ, its going to be interesting to see just how may challenges will be made, but there is a difference between challenging and actually taking the fight. As said before, Jimmy was and is, always willing to fight the best and the best kept pulling out. I'm sure that the Stewart Camp understands that fighters do get injured training, but when was it going to stop. Know it has. I believe that this was a good ruling and that he should wear the belt proudly! Take care and train hard!!![/QUOTE]

[David Cummings]

Great point made about Eric Marshall! I am not positive he would beat Jimmy since I have not had the privilidge of seeing Jimmy fight but I am confident that he was indeed hurt or he would have fought. Eric is a class athlete and in my opinion would fight anyone full contact in his weight class. In response to Tommy's post it sounds like that would be a marquis match up against 2 very skilled athletes. I have fought Tarek and seen him fight and believe he is on of the top in his weight class!!! :)

[Crazy T]

:cool: "because of fear or being chicken as some smart ass states"

You show me where at in my post that I called Eric a chicken! Read the POST! I even stated in the post that fighters do get hurt. Yes, Jimmy new he had a good fight. He said that's they way it should be. The BEST fighting the BEST. I'm sure that Eric would have taken the fight if he wasn't hurt, he pulled out due to an injury, Jimmy was awarded the Belt. Fair is fair. If this was directed towards me... At least I'm not a Dumb ass! take care and tarin hard!!!

[EMKFAN2]

Hey CRAZYT, I didn't see where you were mentioned, having made the remark! If you look back, though, "SMACK" somebody, did, but not specifically stating anyone in particular! Unfortunately, Marshall was the last person to be called by Steve Fossum, AS ALL OTHERS BACKED OUT, for personal circumstances/ injuries. Just seems to me, that the IKF NEWS PAGE, is blaming MARSHALL, stating "that was the last straw!'...and that's why Stewart was awarded the title...and that Marshall's manager called "4 days before the fight."...and that the promoter, and whomever, LOST MONEY THAT CAN'T BE RECUPED!" Actually, it was 5 days before the fight, but whose counting? ........AND, 12 EMK FANS AND SUPPORTERS, ALL LOST MONEY, AS WELL! (they forgot to mention that!)...ALL PLANE RESERVATIONS MADE FOR THIS "MUCH LOOKED FORWARD TO", event, WERE NON-REFUNDABLE! So, my questions is, "WHAT IS IKF'S POINT? Is their money worth more than ours?...or any of the other fighters and fans?.. Where is the compassion for un-forseen injuries, and unforseen circumstances, for fighters? AND, when does the reputation for fighters past record, come in to play? I see no validation, for any past loyalties, commitments, etc, for any of the fighters involved, in this match! WHAT A SHAME! All I see is "finger pointing," by the IKF. It's always someone elses' fault, for one reason or another. WAKE UP IKF! Support your fighters,,ALL OF THEM! If it wasn't for them, THERE WOULD NOT BE A YOU!

AND,,, to address the 'HERE, YOU CAN HAVE THIS WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BELT,' because WHY? IKF, you have set a precidence. CONGRADULATIONS!

[Crazy T]

I was taking that since you quoted something that I posted that the remark was directed towards me. Take care and train hard!!!

[EMKFAN2]

Wasn't me! :confused:

[Crazy T]

LOL My mistake then. LOL Take care and train hard!

[EMKFAN3]

I need to post a message here. I have been reading all that's happened and really don't understand what all the fuss is about. Erik Marshall got hurt. So what, it happens. No one else has never gotten hurt before? Why is everyone coming down on Erik when what happened was out of his control? I have seen Erik fight, he's a great fighter and loves what he's good at. He would [COLOR=Red]NOT[/COLOR] back out unless he had to. He is [COLOR=Red]NOT[/COLOR] a chicken by any sense of the word. So people find someone else to talk about. Bottom line, he got hurt and had to back out. He hated it as much as Jimmie Stewart did. Erik is not afraid of Stewart.
The other thing I don't understand is how can someone be awarded a belt they did not fight for? He was awarded a belt because someone did not make the fight? That makes no sense at all. Ooohh poor Jimmie let's just give him a belt and maybe he will feel better. Come on people grow up. If you can't get a fight you can't get a fight. Does this mean now that everyone that can't get a fight will just be awarded the belt? Great for alot of fighters. I remember when Erik went months because he couldn't get anyone to fight him. He should have been awarded alot of belts.
Get real, a belt is an earned privilage. You fight, you win and you get a belt. You don't fight tough breaks you did NOT earn the belt. Now when did the IKF get so sensitive? Are we dealing with kickboxers or kindergarteners? Well now everyone that can't get a fight will be given a belt? How fun is that going to be?
I think you kickboxers really should look at this hard because it will affect you . If the IKF can just hand out belts then what are you fighting for just wait around and sooner or later you'll get one.

[Crazy T]

"I remember when Erik went months because he couldn't get anyone to fight him."


OK, your talking months, we are talking years here and 6 different opponents. Its amazing how people don't look at the whole picture. Jimmy has had not 1, not 2, but 6 different opponents lined up for a Title shot. Whatever the circumstances were, the fights fell through. I think that it was a great decision on the behalf of the IKF and now Jimmy has what belongs to him, because at the rate and the way thing were going, it could have been another year or two

[SmackMaster]

EMKFAN3, you crack me up homie! are you eric or his trainer? come on man, who are you to speak what you have the way you have spoke it, wtf? look at the whole picture. i read the piece to and ikf never pointed the whole stewert thing on eric, he was just the last draw. to compare the stewert case to any other situation is ludicrest, however its spelled. there has never been a situation like stewart has faced over the last 3 years. 6 fighters pulling out man, SIX! it appears to me, SIX people didnt want to fight him! so, what is he to do? ikf made a bold decision, but it was a strong and fair one to make. it took balls for them to do it because any other org would have just said, f.u. stewart, pay us for another title or sanction fee and keep trying it again and again. so now stewert has the title, well lets see eric and his trainer and your balls. why dont you guys promote the ext one, challenge stewart and bring it on. see for yourself how hard promoting is and how expensive it is you moron. as for me, i think its great ikd stuck up for a fighter in this case. they didnt dog you but maybe they should have, i mean come n, a back injury? they could have dwelled into the lack of provability of such an njury, but it appeared they just wrote what they knew. so now the balls in your court, come back wth a scheduled date for the fight you guys will host and then, we can see if eric had any chance in the first place of being a world champion once and for all. good luck to them both. but you man, stop blaming the wrong person here. this thrad wouldnt be here if the fight would have happened, so you want to cry or point a finger? go look in the mirror. :eek:

[jimmy t]

I am erik marshall's trainer, this will be the first and last time that I will talk about the stewart fight. I have read a lot of wanna bee's opinion's, fact is erik was hurt while getting ready for the fight. one that we took on 2 and a half weeks notice,injuries happen, it is a tough sport that we participate in. we are very thankful that the IKF chose to include erik in the fight, it is most unfortunate it did not take place, MR. STEWART is obviously worthy of the title and we are happy for him. mabe in early 2005 we will get another chance to dance. just in case anyone would like to know, erik's back is getting better as we are doing some light workouts and getting physical therapy 3 times a week. let all the opinions stop here,please. if the fight does take place next year , I am sure it will be one very action packed ,great fight. so once again congats to jimmy, wear the belt with pride as i am sure you deserve it.

jimmy T.

[SmackMaster]

to jimmy t,
i just looked on eric's web page and noticed he doesnt list the ikf as the body of his u.s. pro title. do you guys not like the ikf? is this why? if so, why not? i found this a little strange. :confused:
i was also wondering, when did he win his WKO Light Middleweight World title and his PKF Light Middleweight World title? i mean, who are these organisations? where did he fight for these titles? who did he beat and how? decision? Ko? please inform me. thanks

[jimmy t]

to smackmaster,

we are currently working on our web site, we just started developing it. when everything is completed you will have your answers. thanks for your conscerns and patients. if you would like your questions answered in person we will be at the fall brawl on nov. 6, we have an amateur fighting on the card.

jimmy t.

[SmackMaster]

what happened to the blue posts by hvickie that were in blue? who erased them? and as i read here, it apears EMKFAN2 & 3 are the same idiot! :rolleyes: i think they are both eric marshall! :eek: crying and blaming ikf for his downfall. and hvickie, please repost your news on eric, id like to hear what else this guy has backed out of, since his own trainer cant even tell us where and when he won is world titles. did he even win them in a real fight against a real opp? i would now imagine not! :rolleyes:

[EMKFAN2]

SMACKMASTER, you are a true idiot! If you're having a problem with Erik Marshall's titles and fights,..when, where and who...email his manager @ sharksdale@aol.com. AND....find something constructive to do, besides posting messages on here, that are totally without merit! You have no clue, as to what you are talking about! GET A JOB! Seems to me, you have way too much time on your hands!!

[SmackMaster]

So what are his titles? Is that such a hard question to answer? :rolleyes: :cool: