Peyton vs Raymond Daniels

[Jason (fight geek)]

So, word on the street is that Peyton vs Raymond Daniels is close to being a done deal and that they are fighting on the Vegas K-1 Card.

Does Raymond know that this ring has ropes? :D

Just an observation.

[P.J. Reilly]

Should be a good fight. Raymond has the speed and quick feet and Peyton has the ring smarts and ring experience. If Peyton can use the ring and corner Raymond, he'll win. If Daniels can keep moving and keep Russell at a distance, he'll win. I wish I could be out there.

[Brian Schwartz]

The deal is done. They are fighting 3 X 3 minute rounds on the K-1 undercard. Not only does Raymond know that the ring has ropes, he prefers it. This should be a good one. To bad Ray Thompson isn't going to be there...it would make the victory that much sweeter.

[Jason (fight geek)]

I think Raymond prefers carpet with tape formed in a square as a ring. No running away on this one. Time to fight. Should be awesome.

[Randy Pogue]

Ugly floral carpet, even, by the looks of the fights on Youtube.

But Peyton prefers to have fighters stand still and let him punch them in the face.

Sounds like neither of them get what they want. Hopefully the fans get what they want.

Go Rayton!! Peyray? Russiels? Danssel?

I'm going with Peyray. I can't wait for the Peyray fight!!

[StevieD]

I've got to agree...WHAT A GREAT MATCH! Does anyone know who's working Peyton's corner?

[Michael Dean]

What rule style are they fighting under? K-1 rules? Full-contact?

Best of luck to both fighters!

Michael "Steamroller" Dean

[Michael Dean]

[QUOTE=Brian Schwartz]To bad Ray Thompson isn't going to be there...it would make the victory that much sweeter.[/QUOTE]

Brian, a win over Peyton Russell for any fighter would be sweet! Who is going to be there should have nothing to do with it. Peyton Russell is a class act, and has nothing to do with all the BS and drama that has occurred since Stephen was injured. This fight will be a good one, no need to hype it up in a negative way. Just an observation!

Michael "Steamroller" Dean

[bhalloran]

Michael,
Thank you for such a great post! How true it is that it should not matter who is there ringside... it is about the two fighters in the ring!

[Brian Schwartz]

Its K-1 rules...and btw, there was no negativity in my post, just talk. You guys are reaching...

[Michael Dean]

[QUOTE=Brian Schwartz]Its K-1 rules...and btw, there was no negativity in my post, just talk. You guys are reaching...[/QUOTE]

Brian, go back and read your post again, it comes off as negative. I speak for myself and never claimed to be always right. Regardless, I think it is time to let the past rest and move forward! I am glad that Raymond is furthering his fight career and wish him well.

Sincerely, Michael Dean

[Ray Thompson]

Brian,
I've been hearing about your sarcastic remarks about me such as this one. Figures. My question to you is why would my presence have to do with this fight. Ohhhhh I get it you just desire to be in my presense enjoying my greatness, maybe you want an autograph. You know kinda like big jack o_ _ does. Just wondering!
All you WB fans(and banana peel fans) out there the WB is healing just fine. You will get your chance to see the WB and the banana peel in a REAL ring in a REAL kickboxing match hopefully next year. Of course that will be contingent upon IF the banana peel has the kahunas to fight the WB in a FCR match with more than three rounds (more like 7 or 8). Don't amateur fcr fighters fight three rds? Oh course the bp is so good it should be an easy victory so there is no real reason he should not take the fight, right? It will also be contingent upon a promoter that can come up with the bucks to afford the WB. He has LOTS of Dr. bills to pay for from the magnificiant victory that the banana peel so proudly, supposedly, earned last Jan. That's something to be proud of!!

[Brian Schwartz]

Actually, I would have like to have met you. Just to put a face with the name. To be totally honest, i had never even heard of you before all the banter back and forth, so an autograph probably isn't needed. As far as length of the match, this one and any other, when Stephen gets better, we will be more than happy to take a fight with him for any amount of rounds you wish. This fight is 3 rounds because ALL K-1 fights at this show are 3 round fights. Preliminary, Superfights, and Tournament fights. Oh, btw, Stephen Leko, Mighty Mo and Ray Sefo are fighting 3 round matches too... amateurs right? I thought you would have remembered from when you or any of your fighters fought on a show with this type of media attention...I forgot, you've never been on a big show like this. So, start thinking of a good excuse between now and next year for a reason why your boy doesn't perform. The throwdown excuse is old.

[Ray Thompson]

Great, before this you were an unknown, and STILL are. As for K-1 being 3 rds, is that NEWS to you? I DID mention FCR 3 rounders being amateur bouts or am I mistaken? Oh, the "Throwdown" excuse isn't old, YOU just want it to be old hoping everyone will forget about it and you and all the "pretenders" can claim a proud "victory" over the WB. That is why it's old to you. Oh, and I'm sure you and Ray are PROUD of that "victory" arn't you? Come on bs (I can call you bs can't I?) answer the nice man. Oh. one more thing when you see the WB ask HIM if the "throwdown" thing is old. Ask anyone that has had ACL reconstructive surgery if it is old. As for the WB performing, I'm sure he will SUCK especially compared the the banana peel. Like I said, find a promoter with some money and bp can beat the WB up again. Maybe one of your "big time" promoters will step up being that we down hear in the backwoods south can't possibly measure up to you city slickers. Man I am hilliarous! Come on bs I know you are laughing your tiny little pinhead off arn"t you?

[Brian Schwartz]

Does posting on an internet thread make you well known? I would have done this years ago if I would have known that. I thought fighting on ESPN numerous times would have done it. Or maybe fighting in arenas with 10,000 spectators would have done it. Or could it have been fighting at the Bellagio or the Mirage in front of stars like Michael Jordan, Muhammad Ali, Dr. Dre, Mike Tyson, Jerry Rice and others would have done it. I thought it could been any of those things, but I guess out on the farm those things don't count. I guess what makes you well known is fighting at the local hoe down in between the square dancing and the contest of who has the best pig. I wish I would have your guidance years ago.

As for your boy, I have said from the get go, that I thought the fight was bunk. I thought it was a fluke accident that happened with no one at fault. I do think, in the end, that my boy would have his hand raised but we'll have to wait until Stephen is better for that. Untill then, we can have fun talking back and forth. On that note...have a hush puppy for the little pin head.

[Jason (fight geek)]

#1. It is awesome to hear that Stephen's recovery is going well! I know he will be a force next year in the ring and is a future World Champion.

#2. I don't think Raymond Daniels will be able to fight next year. I think after he loses to Peyton on August 11th at K-1, he is going to retire and go back to the Musical Forms team or whatever he did before. You know, Pink Gi's and Aerial 360 spin crescent kicks to the music from the Xanadu soundrack.

[fighterzack]

Point fighting background gets no respect around here... :(

Actually, I think Raymond would get his due respect here based on what had happened in the WCL before the injury, if a certain post er had not come on here stirring things. I think RD is probably a great athlete and a good full contact fighter, but still learning. I think Wonderboy would have won, but I am biased, having watched him develop and having been in the ring with him before.

Just my 2 cents.

[Brian Schwartz]

Geek-

You got me...I don't have a comeback. I hope Raymond doesn't bust out some pink gi, aerial kicks on your boy...because that would be embarrassing. 16 days to go...

[Randy Pogue]

Brian, for the record, posting on the internet makes you famous. I spent 10 unknown years as a pro, winning all kinds of stuff, and nobody cared. But now, all over the world I'm "that guy from the message board." People buy me things, introduce me to their daughters, give me places to stay, it's wonderful.

I agree with Geek, for once, that the best thing to come out of this thread is that Stephen is doing well. Hopefully he gets back quickly and starts blowing up all the fight sports; kickboxing, boxing, mma, etc. At the very least, I hope he spends time learning to defend the dreaded death neck twist that all the cheaters use. Ha! Did I manage to get all the stupid stuff squeezed into one sentence? Oops. I forgot. Black. There. That should cover it.

As far as a pink gi, if anyone near Atlanta has a size 5 gi in pink or any other fun color, I'm entering into the Battle of Atlanta this weekend and I'm gi-less. I'm gonna see if anyone will stand still long enough for me to hit them. Gonna pull out all my point fighting tricks from the 3 local tournaments I did back in the 80's. Hi-ya!!

You should go. It's a nice, little show that is struggling to find success in the harsh face of reality and could use your support. Just kidding. It's a fun time though, as a spectator, if you are in close proximity. Sooo much fun stuff going on.

If all goes as planned, I will leave that tournament and drive 2 hours to Augusta so I can take out the frustration of not being able to hit anyone by punching Zack in the face. With much love, of course.

[Brian Schwartz]

See now I know...I'm glad I have you guys to enlighten me. Geek, since we are going to be in a gambling state, are you willing ot put a side wager on your boy? I think Raymond may even add some sequence to his pink gi...it is Vegas.

[Jenna Droluk]

If Raymond wears pink glitter, etc on his kickboxing pants, I will be his #1 fan... Of course, he'll have to deal with Pogue calling to borrow his clothes from time to time.

Anyone who wants to have that much fun in the ring rocks.

[Michael Dean]

[QUOTE=Jason (fight geek
#2. I don't think Raymond Daniels will be able to fight next year. I think after he loses to Peyton on August 11th at K-1, he is going to retire and go back to the Musical Forms team or whatever he did before. You know, Pink Gi's and Aerial 360 spin crescent kicks to the music from the Xanadu soundrack.[/QUOTE]

((((((GEEK!!!!!!!))))))) You can make fun of us Sport Karate Competitors all you want, but the chick from Xanadu was a hottie! In the honor of this fine lady, I challenge you to a duel my friend. Shall we say 20 paces?

Steamroller out!

[senseijensen]

I can see why Fight Geek picked that name for himself and am amazed at the truth about Ray Thompson which was just heresay before. I'm sure wb is a class act though.

[Jason (fight geek)]

[QUOTE=Brian Schwartz]See now I know...I'm glad I have you guys to enlighten me. Geek, since we are going to be in a gambling state, are you willing ot put a side wager on your boy? I think Raymond may even add some sequence to his pink gi...it is Vegas.[/QUOTE]


Brian,
I would love to place a side wager.
I will also be a kind enough guy to let you inform Raymond before you make the bet that there is only 1 minute in between rounds. Him knowing that, I am up for a wager, money, or a even big Sushi/Steak dinner would be awesome.
I hope your guy is out running right now.

[StevieD]

Geek,
Xanadu....how perfect! Can I get the first dance?

[Jason (fight geek)]

Stevie,
You ALWAYS get the first dance.

[Brian Schwartz]

That's providing the fight makes it out of the first round. :)

[Jason (fight geek)]

[QUOTE=Brian Schwartz]That's providing the fight makes it out of the first round. :)[/QUOTE]

Oh Brian,
Be more positive! I think Raymond has a chance to make it out of the 1st round. Maybe.

[Brian Schwartz]

I'm very positive...we will not only see if your boy makes it out of the first round, but if he even lands a clean shot...I win. :)

[Ray Thompson]

Man I better stay a little closer to the board. Between sloppin the hogs and practicing my square dancin steps I got distracted. BS I guess you think being a "TOKEN" fcr fight on a K-1 card makes you special. When I talk to Muhammad, Dr. Dre, Michael and the guys this weekend I'll ask them if they remember you. I'm sure they'll tell me all about your fantastic fight with uh, who did you fight? I'm also sure you made a LASTING impression. You're so famous that even the kickboxing community know's all about you. What's your name again? Yeah you are in the minds of all those names you "dropped" on us. I'm impressed that you could even spell all those names especially ESPN. I sure couldn't especially being from the back woods and all. Yeap you be famous.
As far as the "accident" as you like to call it, it was no accident that RD looped his left hand around Stephens neck and forced him to step out with his left leg, it was no accident that RD reached with his right hand to secure the grab, it was no accident that RD pulled down toward the canvas with both hands to shrug the WB which caused the destruction of his knee, it was no accident that RD then pulled hard to his left as Stephen was falling and threw a right hook (I guess it was supposed to be a hook) to try and finish the WB off. No it was no accident that those things happened ESPECIALLY since RD is a world class fighter (and I DO NOT say that in a sarcastic manner) and is supposed to have the skill to fight within the rules and defeat them WITHIN the confines of the rules. RD DID NOT do that!! Did RD INTEND to cause injury, absolutly not, at least not in my mind BUT he DID intend on grabbing the WB to avoid what RD thought might be a rough situation for himself. The knee destruction WAS NOT intential but the rest WAS NO ACCIDENT. MAN did I right all that stuff?? I'm not supposed to be able to do that, I can't read or right.
Oh, incase you havn't noticed Peyton is not my fighter.

[senseijensen]

So Mister Ray Thompson,you contend that with All your fight experience,savy,and coaching skill,..that a fighter can do all those things at the spur of the moment;in a fraction of a second;in a fight where there are two fighters that have never fought each other before; with precision,and intention to alter the fight in RD's favor?Completely intellectualize every action right down to the step,the pull,the redirection of the body...? C'mon..pure reaction...a fluke... It was a one in ?????chance of that knee going out. You have to know that. Ray is agreat fighter for sure but the direction you take is star wars all the way..Also whether or not you like Brian is besides the point that he was a great fighter and compared on someof the fights by the commentators, to Bill Wallace. I bet you can't stand that. Classic mind set on your part is all I have to say. Real country!!

[Brian Schwartz]

Hi Ray...I understand that you haven't been on in a while. No need to explain. We all do what we got to do. As for a token fight on a K-1 card (I was a token 5 times), I think of it as an honor not a token. How many other fcr matches have been on K-1 card before or since then? Zero. You should be careful about who you talk about when you talk about my opposition on those shows. Some of my past opponents have been on here talking highly of you. You probably don't need to put your foot in your mouth anymore than you already do. I know the fights I had and the opposition I fought against are nothing like the the guys you fought in the South Carolina Toughest Man contest. Since we are going by acronyms, you don't mind if I call you SCTM (South Carolina's Toughest Man), do you SCTM? That's a huge accomplishment. Be proud of that...I would.

As for Raymond and Stephen's fight (do you really call him Wonderboy at home? I mean seriously, when you guys are at dinner do you say "Wonderboy, pass the grits, please" I think that's a little weird...buts that can be another topic). You guys refer to Stephen's blitz as this super move. It looked like an out of control, diving forward with his head down move to avoid getting hit. It looked so out of control, he crashed in to Ray and that's when he they got tangled up. Honestly, I am not going to come on here and bash your kid. I hear he's nice guy. You on the other hand may have a couple of problems. Like one of those dad's at a little league game who lives vicariously through his kid. Come on SCTM, you don't have to be like that. You are South Carolina's Toughest Man 1980...you don't have anything to prove.
I have a couple more answers to your long winded post which was pretty much about nothing. Check out this link. http://www.upstatekarate.com/instructors.htm

Does Peyton know you have him listed on your website as one of your instructors? I would be a little upset if I were him knowing that you were using his name to advertise your school and then going on saying he's not your fighter...a little on the rude side, SCTM.

You wrote "MAN did I right all that stuff?? I'm not supposed to be able to do that, I can't read or right." Key in on the highlighted word. For your information SCTM, when you reference that word its spelled W-R-I-T-E. Maybe it should be I can't read, write or spell.

[dan stell (bam)]

good luck to both of these fighters.....

bam ;)

[senseijensen]

Peyton KO'd by Raymond in the Third round.. Go pointfighters! Congratulations to both for the match!!

[Jason (fight geek)]

Well,
I didn't want to get involved with the above thread in regards to Peyton and Raymond, so I thought I would go to this one to talk about an awesome event and fight.

First off from myself and the other Cellar guys congrats to Raymond Daniels for his victory and congrats to Peyton and Raymond for a great opening fight on the K-1 show.

I will also say it was a pleasure meeting Brian Schwartz and Raymond Daniels. Brian was a straight shooter regarding everything concerning and leading up to the fight.

As for the event, K-1 put's on a great show and everything was first class.
If I think of something bad about the event I will put it, but I can't. Everyone was helpful, friendly, and catered to us in a professional manner.

As for the fight, I thought it was great. Obviously I would have prefered a different outcome, but hey, this is the fight game.

The biggest bummer is that Peyton injured his knee in the bout. If my memory serves, and I could be wrong, but I think it was the first knock down of the 3rd round.

I saw Peyton adjust the knee. Obviously there was something wrong, and he just wasn't as mobile after that.
I personally felt, and this could change upon a viewing of the fight, that he was more rocked in the 2nd round than the 3rd round. I am not making excuses, or saying that the fight should have gone on, just an observation after the fact that I think that Peyton would have made it the three rounds if not for the knee injury.

Just so people know as well, before anymore knee stuff goes on. There was no illegal blow, it happened when Peyton was knocked down.

I wish Peyton a speedy recovery.

[Brian Schwartz]

I agree Geek...Peyton was hurt most in the second round. I thought you guys were also class acts and I hope Peyton recovers quickly. He showed a lot of heart that night. As for the event, I too, thought it was a great event. There were great fights, great atmosphere and a great crowd. If you've never been to K-1 event, its one not to be missed.

[bigjack]

man I haven't been on this thread, Brian I didn't know you had it in ya. :)

Ray thanks for letting you mouth run you out of the WCL. That freed Jason to fight where he belongs, over with us on the Stars.