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Randy Pogue
11-07-2004, 10:21 PM
[color=sandybrown]7. Day vs. Bartinelli. What a fight! I was so excited, I couldn’t even think straight, although being assaulted by Day’s mother at the beginning of the fight didn’t help, but that’s another story for another time. I’m a little fuzzy on the details. After watching fights that lasted less than three rounds all night, the timing of a 7 rounder is blurry. Plus, I’m punchy, so please forgive me. I also did not officially judge this bout, as my postings on this board have rendered me biased. Anyhoozles, I believe I gave Day the first 3 rounds. Day was using great angles, and Bartinelli couldn’t get set. The 4th was very close. I gave Bartinelli rounds 5 and 6, and I gave Day the 7th. Day definitely tired in the 4th round, and Bartinelli moved him around the ring at will. He still couldn’t mount a serious offensive, though. I believe Day’s awkward movement, sometimes falling away in fatigue after throwing a kick, prevented Bartinelli from finding him with clean combos. Kudos to Day for digging deep and landing the majority of blows in the final round. [/color]
[color=sandybrown]I think the judging was right on. If my memory is correct, which it might not be, the score essentially came down to the 4th round. My scoring would have been 68-65, including the point deduction. If the 4th was a draw, the score is 68-66. If you gave Bartinelli round 4, the score is 67-66. Day needs to work on conditioning. Well…maybe not. His workouts should have provided great conditioning. My guess is that this fight was so high-profile that he gassed out from nerves, and no amount of conditioning prepares you for that. He just has had too much time off between high-profile fights. [/color]
[color=sandybrown]I think Bartinelli fought well. Fighting an opponent with an awkward style and a good deal of amateur experience is difficult for a young fighter. He did not seem happy with the decision, but was admirably gracious in defeat. He also spent time signing autographs for the children, which was nice. This fight may be just the ticket for Bartinelli, and he may come back much sharper after this experience. It is my intention to officially bury the hatchet on this topic. There have been some words exchanged between us in the past. I wasn’t happy with what was being said and how it was being said, so I got into some smack-talking. I’d like that to be put in the past. Bartinelli may grow from this experience and be a great champion for the IKF, and there is no need for me to badger him, or promote negativity that may hinder his growth. [/color]
[color=sandybrown]8. Thompson vs. Reeves. It was just about what I expected. Reeves was unfit and can’t take a punch. I’m about 90% sure he didn’t take a dive, but it’s possible. The right hand he was hit with was solid and completely unblocked, so it could have been a legitimate knockdown. Nevertheless, he was obviously able to get up. He claims to have been unable to see clearly from his left eye, and was coherently trying to explain that to his corner during the 10 count. My personal opinion is, if you are coherent, you need to stand up. The referee is not going to let you fight with your eyeball hanging out, so you don’t need to worry about that. If you stand up and say you can’t see out of your left eye, the ref will likely have the doc take a look, to make sure it wasn’t a thumb. If the doc says you are ok, suck it up for 60 seconds and decide in your corner between rounds, if you can last that long. If want to call yourself a fighter, then fight. Lose if you must, but go down swinging, not on your knees talking about an injury that isn’t visible or verifiable. And don’t bother trying the old “you don’t know what it’s like…” crap, because I do know exactly what it’s like. We’ll put that in the “story for another time” file.[/color]
[font=Times New Roman][font=Verdana][size=2][color=sandybrown]Great show, great fights. Lots of action. Lots of KO’s, but between evenly matched fighters, with the exception of Thompson/Reeves. I’m looking forward to May. Hopefully I’ll be asked to be involved, in one way or another.[/color][/size][/font][/font]
EvoMatt
11-08-2004, 04:30 AM
that about says it perfect for Reeves!
mouth of the south
11-08-2004, 05:59 AM
whats up randy!! yes i guess you about summed it up about reeves!! i guess we should have listened months ago when people were saying that he isnt a real fighter and that he fought his own students to pad his record but i myself tried to give him the benifit of doubt and it turns out that they were all right!!! but enough about the "loser"!! the rest of the fights were great and my hats off to all of the REAL fighters that walked the walk at "entrapment"!! maybe in may you can fight on Mr.T's card!!! i guess Mr.T is on the phones now trying to find stephen a fight for may!!! im sure it will be another great night of fights!!! i just hope it dont run in to BIKE WEEK at the beach this year or ill have to cut vacation short like in the past 2 years!!! lol but wouldnt miss fights for nothing!!! peace out!!! mouth of the south :cool:
Jason (fight geek)
11-08-2004, 06:16 AM
RP,
Thanks for the break down of the fights!
I want the video!
How would you approach fighting each fighter? Day and Bartinelli?
What types of running helps you the most for fighting and sparring? Just wondering because, even though I run, when I spar, I gas quicker than I think I should. Maybe because I like throwing 20 kicks a round.
Yeah..brings up something you mentioned, I hate it when people miss kicks.
I will be at the May show for sure!
Pittsburgh Pittsburgh Pittsburgh Pittsburgh Pittsurgh
Hey how did the Eagles do? Did they win? :D
geek
Pete P
11-08-2004, 07:25 AM
I just don't get it! Why would Reeves, or anyone for that matter, give that kind of performance KNOWING he will get a load of crap for everyone on the message board and future shows (if he has any). I am curious now to see what Cody(Reeves fighter) will post in his defense....Or will they just lay low for a while....Hmm..?
Ross Jones
11-08-2004, 07:54 AM
For my unqualified opinion.... Reeves looked out of shape and slow. I think it would take a tremendous amount of arrogance for any of Reeves supporters to try to justify that lack of desire. I can't imagine what kind of denial Reeves would have to be in to sign back on this board AT ALL. If Reeves had displayed the amount of desire demonstrated by the others fighters posting up on the same card we might have seen that fight go 2 rounds. It also shows lack of respect in my view. Only because Mr.T. had a tremendous card prepared was the entire event NOT damaged. Everyone has thier favorites and my allegance is easy to figure out however as much as I wanted to see Steven do well I expected to see him have to fight. I didn't think the fight would be over after a "batting practice" right hand. In retrospect if that sent him to the mat it may be best that he stayed down because otherwise he may have been around long enough to get hit with some of those heavy left hand shots kadir absorbed or that spinning back kick that hurt Engle so badly, the differance being those fighters got up and kept fighting. Randy it's too bad I didn't get to introduce myself I think I would have enjoyed the meeting. I don't always agree with what you say but I can tell you think before you write and I respect that. I was very impressed with your desire to end the Bartinelli feud. As much as I love trash talking Bartinelli showed up and fought and gave as good as he got on most of the time. My kudos go out to Day.... huge guts and a never say die attitude.
War
Ross
Jason (fight geek)
11-08-2004, 08:10 AM
Ross,
Who do you think won the Day fight from where you were sitting?
Ross Jones
11-08-2004, 08:35 AM
In response to Jason,
I would have given the fight to Day. he out worked Bartinelli. Bartinelli seemd to have greater skill but could never really deliver much of a flurry as Day was "stick and move" personafied. Day landed several rights that made the sweat fly. To Bartinelli's credit he kept coming forward. Granted I'm relatively inexperianced in the world of Kickboxing Day used the sweep better than any I've seen. Several times just before Bartinelli could sit down on his punches Day would sweep his leg HARD and would throw him off balance. Day then would throw something quickly and be gone again. This seemed to really frustrate Bartinelli and I'm suprised nobody else has made mention of this expert use of an under-used tool. Day faded late but wow what a guttsy performance and Bartinelli didn't seem to have enough left in rounds 5-7 to capitalize. Thanks for asking... I had awsome seats for whatever that's worth.
War
Ross
mouth of the south
11-08-2004, 10:29 AM
Ross you are right with your assessment of the fights with your details!! i was too busy yelling and couldnt remember details but remember it was exciting!! and big evan also done a great job in his fight!! he busted the guy up pretty good!!! i think we dont always give evan his just deserve because we are usually focused on stephens fight but evan also is a great up and coming fighter!!! but he needs to stop worrying about the other guys blood all over him!!! LMAO i hear he's a germ-a-phobic!!! lol and ross i met Randy and he is a nice person and good to talk to!! unlike me he knows a lot about kickboxing!! thanks for being kind! and randy maybe you can fight on Mr.T's next card!!!!! peace out!! mouth of the south :cool:
Randy Pogue
11-08-2004, 10:37 AM
Hey Geek.
I'm not sure what to tell you about gassing out early. If someone has the same conditioning level as their peers, but no wind in the ring, my answer is they need to learn to relax. Like I said about Day, no amount of conditioning will save you if are too anxious. Other than that, here's two training ideas.
For running, try doing more interval work. Two minutes hard, one minute easy. You need to run for at least 20 minutes to get good quality aerobic conditioning, but putting interval work in will make a difference. As you progress, cut down your recovery time or increase your work time. The hardest part is making sure that you are really pushing it during your work period. You can try putting in two, 10 second full-out sprints in your 2 minute work period. That will keep you working.
In training, since you like to kick alot, spend a couple rounds on the kick shields, kicking nonstop for the round. Have your pad holder count the kicks so you can push yourself to improve.
As far as fighting Day or Bartinelli, I wouldn't put my theories there on display. I'll say this, movement troubled Bartinelli, and Day's endurance was suspect. On the psoitive tip, like Ross said, Day's use of the sweep was really outstanding. And Bartinelli has one of the smoothest right hands I've seen in a long time. It was a very good fight.
The Eagles will be fun to watch in the next few weeks. Will they wake up to the mistakes they've been getting away with for the last few weeks and adjust, or will they bicker and fall apart like so many Philly teams before them?
In other news, the Vikes have beaten the Colts 5 of the last 6 times they've met. Can they win again after not only losing Moss for the first time in his career, but after being smacked on the nose by the Giants last week?
Jason (fight geek)
11-08-2004, 11:20 AM
I like to hear that foot sweeps were being used! Any good Side Kicks at Entrapment? I love when fighters use them.
I am taking a poll on who was the best kicker of the night?
RP, hanks for the info, I like trying other stuff to keep training interesting, and rewarding
Any other ideas, tips, are welcomed by the geek from anyone!!!
tonight, two great O's and one two terrible D's,
should be interesting
fight geek
cody(reeves fighter)
11-08-2004, 06:09 PM
hello everyone im not going to take the low road, im not like that i drove from hamilton alabama to see the fights, i was dissappointed with the outcome of my trainers fight i know he can fight better than that,but on the other hand he hasnt been in the ring for two years, he has a lot of rust im sure he wanted to fight i talked to him before hand and yes he said that right hit him and he could not see out of his eye and i guess with the impaired vision he took a knee to keep steven from landing a roundhouse and taking his head off. if i could not see i would hate to be there with steven that was the frist time i have ever saw him fight i do wish i could have saw more. also mr.t that was a great show i was very impressed and i wish i would have stayede for the after party and meet some of you on the board but i was ready to get back to alabama i had not slep since i woke up friday morn and i had a 9 hr drive back. c-ya later
mouth of the south
11-08-2004, 06:46 PM
cody i am glad to see that atleast one of reeves fighters/fans had the guts to come on here!! i just hope that he dont teach his fighters to QUIT like he did!! and thats what he did!! because he could have stood back up and chose to wimp out!!! i guess what was said on here was true when they said he padded he record fighting his students because it showed!!! my 9 year old son can fight and take a punch better than jason "the plastic hammer" reeves!!! peace!!! mouth of the south
Pete P
11-08-2004, 06:58 PM
MOTS,
C'mon man, Cody had the balls to come on here and say a few words. He made know excuses for Reeves and had a nice comment for Mr.T. So, I see no need to go on further, ya know. You guys have had your say about Reeve's performance (or lack there of), and I am sure it was justifiable to say the least, but I don't think Cody needed to here that from you after he showed some respect with his post. Just my opinion.
mouth of the south
11-08-2004, 07:10 PM
maybe you are right pete!!! but he did come on here and talk trash too a while back!! but you are right i guess its not codys fault!! i was venting a little he is the only one of reeves fighters or fans to come on here reeves hasnt even been back on!!! thanks pete for reminding me!!! peace cody!! mouth of the south :cool:
Pete P
11-08-2004, 07:21 PM
Cool MOTS!
I know how it is to see a fight like that and not take it to heart. I have been in your shoes in that case, and was also mad about it. I did not mean to "yell" at you about it, I just know that trash talking can easily lead to disrespect without realizing it, and I didn't want to see it get that way. Thanks for understanding, man. :)
Peace!
mouth of the south
11-08-2004, 07:25 PM
no problem pete!!!! like trash talking but no disrespect meant to cody or anyone really!!! cant wait till the next night of fights!!! peace!! mouth of the south :cool:
Tom Jensen
11-08-2004, 09:32 PM
Hey Cody:
A loss for Reeves doesn't make him a bad trainer (or fighter for that matter). You're a dedicated student for traveling that far & for believing in him. There's no shame it that. The only bad losses are those we don't learn from.
You keep training & learning from Reeves. He's got a lot of good stuff to teach you. Stick with it!
Ronnie Copeland
11-08-2004, 10:07 PM
Cody is 13 and fought in this years NA Tournament and made it to the final round for the title. He lost his final match in a war against a really strong opponent. Cody is a good kid with a lot of heart. Good luck and keep training hard.
RC
cody(reeves fighter)
11-09-2004, 06:35 AM
hey mouth no disrespect taken i know that is what the board is all about (for the most part).also i do not quit maybe somday you'll get a chance to see me fight. also as for jason im not making excuses your right, ever since he was an avid writer on here he stoped because he had his internet turned off .he should be back on soon and you all can start the trash talk again.Im not for it to much, i talk in the ring myself but that not do much for promotion catch you all later
cody(reeves fighter)
11-09-2004, 06:43 AM
Ronnie Im sorry but you have the wrong cody my name is Cody Harris and i am 23 yrs old, the kid you speak of does seem like a good kid tough i've meet him once a few months ago.maybe someday i'll get the chance to meet all of you the only people i meet while there was megan (who was very nice) when i bought the tickets early saturday and also evan, i intoduced myself to him right before jasons fight he was setting pretty close so i said hi. anyway im glad to see that there are still people on here that take up for good guys. thanks
EvoMatt
11-09-2004, 08:35 AM
I sat there on that row too. i take it you were the one wearing the yellow shirt( I believe)? Anyways, what weight u fight at? Was going to speak to you as well, but you were gone before they even counted to 10. another quick exit, but a 9 hr drive here and back each way is some dedication. Happy training!
mouth of the south
11-09-2004, 09:39 AM
cody maybe one day we will be able to see you fight!!! you didnt see me at the fights but you probably heard me!! lol i know you have no control over what reeves done!!! it just looked to all of us in the audience that he got scared and wouldnt get back up!! it looked like a glancing blow!!! i think that he hurt any chance to fight in the IKF with that performance!! but we will see!!! i could almost gurantee that he will never fight on Ray Thompsons fight card again!! but thats not you!! maybe you will be able to fight on Mr.T's card and we will be able to see you fight!! maybe we can cheer for you as long as you arent fighting any upstate karate fighters!! lol well good luck to you and i hope reeves can hold his head up when he walks down the street with that performance!! peace!!! mouth of the south :cool:
mouth of the south
11-09-2004, 09:40 AM
EVO MATT do i know you??? where do you take at?? peace!! mouth of the south :cool:
admin
11-09-2004, 10:19 AM
To Message Board Admin From IKF
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Cody,
Jason told you "[color=orange]yes he said that right hit him and he could not see out of his eye and i guess with the impaired vision [color=cyan]he [color=red]took[/color] a knee[/color] to keep steven from landing a roundhouse and taking his head off[/color]."
Cody,
If you were there, you would have noticed, he didn't "Take a knee" and sit down, he just dropped down and sat there. VERY DIFFERENT than just taking a knee and saying "Hold on a minute."
But Cody,
The big question now is, "[color=cyan]Was Reeves 'HIRED' for a fight under false qualifications?[/color]" Qualifications he sent to the IKF on his fighter registration form? Which in reality, is fraud.
In relation to this, we have some HONEST and LEGIT questions for you cody to ask Jason. That is, if you want to:
1: WHO was his last opp? (Fighter he fought)
2: WHAT was the fighters name he fought?
3: WHEN did this fight happen? (Date)
4: WHERE did the fight happen? (City/State)
5: WHO was the promoter? (Name/Contact Number)
6: The result? (Win - Loss)
Jason CLAIMS to have [color=mediumturquoise]"24" WINS.[/color]
Please ask these questions to him for maybe just half (About 10-12) of his bouts and see what answers you get.
Not to tread negative on this issue but we did such research and our results? We found NO ONE to say he EVER fought before. Even the 3 guys who cornered for him, [color=mediumturquoise]NONE[/color] of them have EVER seen him fight before (Even a video of his fighting) or know of ANY fight he has EVER been in. We contacted people throughout the South asking if they knew him, [color=mediumturquoise]NO ONE DID.[/color] When he fights his students or friends in the gym, these fights do not count.
So Cody,
Not to be hurtful to you, but lets be honest here. We now believe Reeves gave everyone here a false record. We are VERY EAGER to hear about just one of his bouts with more to follow. Remember, Reeves was booked for this fight as an EXPERIENCED PRO FIGHTER, "CLAIMING" he has a Pro record of [color=cyan]10 WINS,[/color] Only 1 loss, a draw with 5 of his PRO WINS by KO/TKO. For a [color=mediumturquoise]PRO[/color] Fighter, "[color=mediumturquoise]TEN[/color]" wins is pretty impressive with only 1 loss. Surly someone would know who he is. But again, NO ONE DOES.
Adding to this, he also said he had an amateur record of 14 WINS, only 1 loss with again, 5 wins coming by KO/TKO.
For the record also, for those who were not there, The punch Thompson hit him with was not a solid punch. In fact, if memory is correct, Thompson hit him with his right hand as he was stepping BACK with his left foot. It hit him on the lower left jaw, NO WHERE near the eye or temple as Jason told everyone it did.
Lets bring something else up here. Have you ever heard the phrase "How do you unring a bell?"
We refer to this phrase for the fans and even the sponsors of Stephen Thompson and Mr. Thompson's event. Some of those fans who were there Saturday night "May" now be wondering things like, "Why did Ray book such a fighter for Stephen? For an easy win?" You see, the perception here is more damaging than anything because some may think such a thing. The fact is, Mr. Thompson booked a fighter who CLAIMED to be an experienced PRO FIGHTER. One who has told Ray himself, "No offense Mr. Thompson, but Stephen has never faced a fighter like me before, and I am going to knock your son out!" Now Ray has to face this perception for his next event. WHO will he get next for Stephen? Hopefully the fans at this last event will still pay to come see Stephen fight and fight a good legitimate fighter, knowing the truth here, that this was not Ray or Stephen's fault, but the fault of Jason Reeves. But again, as for this situation, Mr. Thompson will always ask, "How do you unring a bell?" For the damage Reeves did this time, can never be un-done.
So Cody,
PLEASE ask him for everyone here. Find us "[color=mediumturquoise]ONE[/color]" of those wins. If more, even better.
However, sorry to say, we could not even find a loss, that is until November 6th, 2004 in Simpsonville South Carolina, USA to a fighter named Stephen Thompson... And we ALL know about that bout.
Jason (fight geek)
11-09-2004, 11:23 AM
OK,
How do I start..
Yes, Jason Reeves seems to be missing something. Talent, a Jaw, courage, integrity of some sort, etc. (you fill in here)
And I have heard it seemed he took a dive. In which case if he can't prove he had the fights he should be banned or suspended (sued for travel expenses, etc, Plus others on the board stated he was carrying his kid with his "injured shoulder"
BUT,
I may be missing something, but besides Cody stating Jason took a knee, I am not sure Cody needs to be the brunt of these questions. Cody didn't speak too much crap, and did show some class by coming on here and talking about stuff and did drive 9 hours apparently.
I would love for Reeves to come on and explain his hysterical (sp?) blindness, record, and his dive, but I doubt he will.
I just don't want it to seem that the IKF is coming down too hard on Cody. I know these are good questions, I am just sticking up for a martial arts student who might be blinded by his instructor. We have all seen or heard about this in a negative way. Maybe Cody is prey to a Con Man.
I think it sucks what happened and I feel for Mr. T and Wonderboy on being robbed of a good fight which impacts there business on various levels.
I was thinking to myself, what if Reeves would have won? Would the record matter?
I personally think IT DOES, and people should tell the truth, but as a fan of kickboxing my first reaction to the post was why were the questions posed 1-6 not investigated earlier. Maybe they were, and there was no response. Or the IKF was too trusting in his (Reeves) responses. Sucks either way.
I think this is why the IKF as a body is so vital. Having records and having a network of information and people is important for the integrity of the sport and I think if an organization can't keep up it's rankings in a public domain of some sort, it is time to get with the program.
I was talking to someone in South Carolina the other day and said it looks like they are going to have to go to Europe or Russia to find a decent opponent for the Wonderboy to fight.
Who is next? This does build drama, I want to know.
fight geek.
Pete P
11-09-2004, 11:33 AM
I agree with Jason, it is not Cody's responsibility to ask OR answer these questions. They are all legit Q's, but should not involve Cody. Get it straight from Reeves and make damn sure he can prove what he says with some history. He is not the first to "fraud" the promoters and fans in our great sport and that is a sad thing. We as martial artists should ALL have some integrity. Hopefully this is a lesson for future background checks on all fighter who may be in question. Just my opinion.
admin
11-09-2004, 11:48 AM
To Message Board Admin From IKF
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Pete and Jason:
We are not attacking Cody here in any way. As you both said, at least he came on here to respond in regards to the bout. We DO NOT blame Cody, if anything, we feel sorry for him for being in a way, "In the middle of all this."
You asked,
"but as a fan of kickboxing my first reaction to the post was why were the questions posed 1-6 not investigated earlier."
As we noted, THEY WERE asked to many in the region and investigated:
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[color=deepskyblue]WE SAID BELOW:[/color]
Not to tread negative on this issue but we did such research and our results? We found NO ONE to say he EVER fought before. Even the 3 guys who cornered for him, [color=mediumturquoise]NONE[/color] of them have EVER seen him fight before (Even a video of his fighting) or know of ANY fight he has EVER been in. We contacted people throughout the South asking if they knew him, [color=mediumturquoise]NO ONE DID.[/color] When he fights his students or friends in the gym, these fights do not count.
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So, we asked if Cody knew anything, maybe something we didn't find.
When Reeves was first ranked in the IKF FCR Rankings, he was "X" Ranked because we could not prove a single bout of his. 3 weeks before the fight, he called and was offended we didn't have him as a number rank. So we moved him to a number rank, knowing, the bout with Stephen would make the determination as to his ranked ability. Were we "too trusting in his (Reeves) responses" as you ask? Maybe so, but we knew we would see first hand on November 6th what he really has.
This just stresses MORE, WHY we "X" Rank a fighter that registers for an IKF Ranking who does not send us a fight list with a video of some of their bouts. Some get mad when we do this, but here is a CLEAR EXAMPLE of WHY we do this.
Cody,
We were NOT attacking you in any way, and we apologize if it appeared that way.
Jason (fight geek)
11-09-2004, 12:16 PM
Thanks for the follow up!
jason
Ross Jones
11-09-2004, 12:23 PM
I think lots of poeple could stand around and point fingers and accuse the other of some type neglect or misdeed. The truth of the matter is there will always be someone looking to scam and shortcut the system. There will always be honorable poeple and orginizations like Mr. Thompson and the IKF repectively that will give a Reeves the benifit of the doubt.I would like to take a moment to point out that these FAKES are always exposed when they are truly tested. Unlike others who might say "I hate to say I told you so", I enjoy saying it. I said several weeks ago on the old board that before midnight on Nov. 6 we would all know the real truth about Reeves. The IKF admin. has said the same thing below. You would have to be on medication to draw any other conclusion than Reeves was a fraud. Fortunatly Stephen's record is impecable as is Mr. T's reputation otherwise perception of what happened on the 6th could be very differant. It's also unfortunate that a student like Cody who seems honorable gets decieved as it appears he may have been.
War
Ross
Jason (fight geek)
11-09-2004, 12:53 PM
Ross,
Well at least you admit you like saying "I told you so".
Too bad we didn't know the truth earlier.
If you were so certain, why didn't you call Mr. Thompson or the IKF and let them know the truth about this guy. Or did you mean the truth would be revealed that he would lose, not show up, or be a fraud?
just teasing :)
I agree with time the fakes are usually exposed.
Jason
Ross Jones
11-09-2004, 01:16 PM
Hey Jason,
I'm so new to the kickboxing game that me offering the likes of Mr. Thompson or the IKF advise would take more arrogance than even I have( and that's no small sum). I just have had the good fortune of seeing Stephen fight a couple of times and with all of the trash talking that was going on( which I encourage) I knew there would be a day of reckoning. Normally the trash talking is either backed up or shut up. I'm sure we know which of those 2 options are applicable here. If you're in the nieghborhood sometime Jason give me a shout.
War,
Ross
Jason (fight geek)
11-09-2004, 01:45 PM
Ross,
I should be in the area in either (Jan, March), and for sure May 05.
I will give you a shout when I do!
Jason
mouth of the south
11-09-2004, 02:01 PM
everyone is right i was the first one to say something to cody about his "trainer" which i probably shouldnt have!! but we straightened it out!!! and this didnt hurt anyone but reeves if he could be hurt!!! does he have a martial arts school?? if he does he dont represent honor and integrity like Ray Thompson and upstate karate!!! and it was said that they hoped it wouldnt hurt Mr.T's show or stephen and i dont believe it will!! as long as stephen is fighting and Mr.t has shows he WILL sell tickets because they are HONORABLE people and everyone knows that!!! i am just a FAN and i love to watch kickboxing and i unlike some on here i am not afraid to "trash talk" but its in fun not to hurt anyone!!! like i said before reeves is a phony and took a dive when he seen how "in" shape stephen was and how "out of shape" reeves was!! my 9 year old son could have done better than reeves!!! i comend the IKF on how they are handling this situation!! and he should be banned from the IKF and fighting!! because now EVERYONE knows he's a fraud!! i wish cody all the luck!! he is the only one from around reeves that had the balls to come on!!! i myself cant wait till Mr'T's show in may!!! i will have to leave bike rally at myrtle beach early but his shows are well worth coming home early for!!!!! good luck to the ikf trying to find someone that reeves fought!!! peace mouth of the south :cool:
mouth of the south
11-09-2004, 02:04 PM
1 more thing i have been watching stephen fight since his first fight!!! i have went to kentucky ,tennessee,and georgia and you can bet your bottom dollar that when he fights in simpsonville that i will be there LOUD as ever!!! peace mouth of the south :cool:
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