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FORGET THE WCL....... TAHT ISN'T KICKBOXING!!!!!!!!! CHECK THE CORRECT WEIGHT FOR THESE GUYS TO FIGHT AND LET THEM BANG!!!!!!!

THE PRINCE

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The weight class for this bout is 147.1 to 153. Harminson has been staying 150 for quite some time now, and fought an MMA match at that weight too. So they are the same. But right now, we are having some disagreements on the rule style and length of rounds, so it may or may not happen.

Re: Attn: Irish Guts!!!
 

sorry I can't help it...you're right the WCL isn't the place for the big ol slow, dumb, can't move, no footwork, rockum - sockem robots that nobody wants to watch any more...

Serious note kickboxing isn't going to make it, it hasn't and won't overtake any of the other combat sports and is not going to. I thought the old PKA would have made it but it hasn't. Pointfighting is fast pased but since Naska took over the pointfighing world and watered down the sport to the point that many of the pointfighters can't stomach it anymore. it's not going to make it either. Carnahan, Charlie Lee and the boys have turned it into a rec sport for the most part and unless it returns to being more of a contact sport, will remain there.

"In the Day" tournamet fighting was the training grounds for full contact kickboxing you had speed, movement, power esp, in relation to other combat sports. That is no onger the case

The WCL has re-introduced fast paced full contact martial arts into public arena. Which is the only shot a developing a sport that the eleite can make any real money.

The MMA is great but it ends up, most ot the time, on the mat with a tap out. Even in the MMA world it's the "Iceman's" sudden blows and KO's that brings the crowd to their feet . Something that is and will continue to be commond place in the WCL...especially if they keep feeding us Princes elite list. Pointfighters have needed some shark bait to prove our atheletes are some of the best atheletes out there. :D

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OK Flippin' STOP ALREADY!! Yes I am yelling Prince....Big Jack and Prince, this thread has absolutely NOTHING to do with point fighting vs. kickboxing, period!! So unless your comments pertain to Harminson and Longacre...STAY OFF THIS THREAD. Thank you!

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lol Ok OK I've only seen longacre twice I thought he would have given conner's a better go of it. I don't know him well enough to know wether conners caught him off guard and he didn't recover. ..Are there any vids of these guys on the net or You tube or something like that

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That's better, thank you! I don't know if there is any footage on them or not. I could not find any on youtube. The first time they fought, longacre won, Harminson pulled his groin, or ripped it, or something during the fight, so there was controversy over the win. Then Randy Pogue fought Longacre (in wcl I think), and already had a rib injury I think and took a knee hard...Longacre won. Again, some controversy on that one too on the forums here. So, I am trying to host a rematch between Harminson and Longacre, but we are now not agreeing on the rules style and round length, so time will tell if it happens or not. From everything I hear Longacre is a very good fighter, from everything I have seen (and I used to train with him) Harminson is a dynamite fighter. So if it happens , it will be an awesome rematch.

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is there much money in these type of fights or is it a pride and honnor type of thing. where would the rematch be? Since I'm over here on this board from time to time I'd like to see some of these guys. What are the venues like. Longacre looks tough I just dont know given he wasn't able to handle conners attack mode.

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Here is a video of Thomas in action

http://www.lonestarmmagym.com/video/tkickhighlight2.mpg

There is even a little of the first Harminson fight in this one.

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Sorry not sure if that link worked but here is the main media page where you can select from a couple of highlight vids

http://www.lonestarmmagym.com/index.php?content=media

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The length and number of rounds issue is kind of crazy!! Why isn't there a standard set on all pro fights? These guys aren't amateurs, so why not fight at least five, three minute rounds? You don't see pro boxing with three, two minute rounds, that sounds more like a shoot out instead of a "skilled fight". I can understand fewer and shorter rounds for amateurs, but not pro's!!