Big Jack... go ahead and keep saying that RD beat ST... the facts are this... yes, the WCL did call it a loss to Stephen Thompson and a win to Raymond Daniels but neither fighter threw any techniques of any significance, the fight ended within about 30 seconds due to an injury to Stephen Thompson's knee. Now, if you would like to call that a win so be it, but stop parading around with your nonsense and acting like Ray Daniels knocked out Stephen Thompson because he didn't... it ended in an injury, not any techniques thrown by Daniels that could even possibly discredit Thompson as a fighter. You keep talking about Stephen whimpering and crying... blah blah blah... why don't we twist your knee in a direction that it is not supposed to go and then let you have reconstructive surgery and let's see how you handle it! Stephen never whimpered or cried, he handled as best as anyone would when an injury is set upon them. As far as you mud slinging Stephen Thompson... you might as well give it up. Anyone that knows Stephen can tell you that he is extremely humble and at no time does he relish in his victories or acts boastful. I can tell you right now that if you called him on the phone and asked him about all of this crap posted on these websites, he would not even know what is going on. He does not read any of it because when he fights... he fights in the ring, not outside of it. Ray Thompson is his own man and what he says comes from his own thoughts and mind, not Stephen's. Stop trying to discredit a young man that has worked hard in this sport and has been successful. Leave your beef with his Dad if you must, but your rants about him are so uncalled for. And how in the world did Mr. Thompson's comments about Brian Swartz turn in to a full on attack of Stephen again... I thought that was a dead horse. I guess that Ray Thompson knows how to push your buttons and really get you going!

Mark, I hate to bicker, but this thread was hijacked from you fair and square. I think your attempt to bring it back on topic is kind of insulting. Have a little respect, widja? Sheesh.

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No, Ringstar shoes are not allowed in the WCL. The shin-instep guards from combat spots that they provide the fighters with is the only thing at this time you can wear.

Jack, if you ever have the pleasure of meeting Stephen, you would respect him and probally never bad mouth him again, he is a great young man and very humble!

Michael Dean

look I wouldn't be saying anything except RT went out of his way to create the image that ray is a dirty fighter and brian sucks. I am doing nothing different to WB that RT didn't do to Raymond and brian. You people want to stone me and give RT a pass. back to ringstar.

lol sorry I couldn't let it go. halloran, I have always maintained that Stephen's injury had nothing to do anything what Raymond did and if you people would have said that months ago we wouldn't be having these posts. if any of you would have confronted RT on the inappropriateness of accusations of Raymond executing a technique that belonged in the mma, and the you suck to Brian then I would have no desire to. I have always found it funny that you people will get on here and take issue with me for villianizing and demeaning WB but think it's OK for RT to villianize Ray and demean Brian.

now back to ringstar

fat jack, you are truly in denial about your god daniels and his "super neck wrestle" tech. that IS EXACTLY what caused stephen's injury. It was not caused by anything but that. It was not from a self imposed slip or stumble. IT WAS CAUSED 100% BY RD!!! OH, yeah, go Ringstar shoes! They really are one of the best items to come along in a long while!

fine I done arguing, then Raymond BEAT the doughboy with an illegal move that belonged in the MMA. Then you go off on Brian for his attempt at MMA. So don't ever let wonderbread get in the Octagon with Raymond. You do and Ray will use his death nect twist to cripple him a second time ... only legally this time.

fine I done arguing, then Raymond BEAT the doughboy with an illegal move that belonged in the MMA. Then you go off on Brian for his attempt at MMA. So don't ever let wonderbread get in the Octagon with Raymond. You do and Ray will use his death neck twist to cripple him a second time ... only legally this time....Happy Thanksgiving

Well against my on advice, I am going to settle this issue once and for all!!!!!

First both Wonderboy and The Real are class acts....nothing else to say about these 2 young men.

There are fanasty leagues in football, baseball etc. So I am going to call the WWF and hire them to create a fanasty fight between all involved in the post. Here is how it will go, it will be the Thompsons vs Daniels and Big Jack. Of course, I am the ring annoucer. Special ref's will be Pogue and Swartz. The ring star shoes will be used as gloves........perhaps this will avoid any death neck moves but who knows? Since Mark G started this post, I will allow him to promote this fight with the WWF and hook it up with PPV.

Ok enough insanity, just settle this in the ring and shut up. Somebody please call a promotor and let these 2 young dudes settle it.

I wonder if these 2 young gentlemen are tired of all of us talking sh..? And they probably just want to get on with their careers.

I doubt this will happen but would The Real Deal and Wonderboy write a post on their feelings about all of this. I think many of us would like to know how the 2 of you feel.

Sorry Mark about getting away from the subject of Ringstar.....they did look good on John's feet and the shoes were a nice color. I tried them on and they felt good.

Happy holidays,

Larry

Ray is not going post. There is nothing for him to settle. WB got the loss and RT got them run out of the WCL. If the money is right Ray will fight anybody. The facts are WB was the poster child for the WCL. WB needs to get back in the ring where he got hurt and if he's on a team then so be it, do it one more time. Raymond is the poster child for the WCL now if WB wants it back the get in the ring and take it back. I'm fine knowing that RT's dreams are crushed and no matter what he or does, according to RT, Ray BEAT WB and WB got the loss.

Can somebody get us back on track here!

Since Ringstar is a sponsor of the IKF maybe something can be worked out to have some future PRO FCR fights with the Ringstar Shoes. Then we can get a better evaluation.

The other argument belongs somewhere else.